Kristin and Meredith talk about how torturing your characters is a must if you want to write a compelling novel. They also chat with Kellye Garrett, who shares her early love of cozies (and why representation matters), gives the origin story for Crime Writers of Color, and talks about how #pitchwars helped launch her career (and the careers of many other writers). Plus, she talks about her newest book and how she got her idea for it.