Leading Ain't Easy

Episode 17 - Leading When You Don’t Like Someone


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You’re a leader. You’re not supposed to say it out loud. But let’s be real: you’re not going to like everyone you lead.

In this episode, Ryan and Erny talk about what to do when someone on your team gets under your skin, without letting it turn into bias, favoritism, avoidance, or over-correction. 

We get into staying objective, using data and clear expectations, managing your ego, and keeping the main thing the main thing: results, culture, and consistency.

You don’t have to be their friend.
But you do have to lead them well.

"Leading Ain't Easy, but you don't have to do it alone."

Leading Ain’t Easy is hosted by Ryan Calkins and Erny Epley.

  • Ryan is the founder of Reframe & Rise, a career and leadership coaching practice helping veterans and other professionals realign their work and lead with purpose.
  • Erny runs Bus Pro Network, supporting school transportation leaders across California with training and development.

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Leading Ain't EasyBy Ryan Calkins and Erny Epley