The choreographer and performance artist Patrice Miller’s conversation with RP Martina Botti (phd candidate from Columbia University) starts out with Patrice asking Martina a definition of ontology and metaphysics. What is real. And how we define the real. This sets the stage for the very interesting exchange between this artist and this philosopher, as they find common ground between art and philosophy.

Patrice makes the point that art talks about itself and talks about the subject also. It sets the boundaries of the space and of the artistic practice and is a kind of “world-building”. At a slightly later point, Martina brings in Nelson Goodman and his "world-making". 

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