In today's episode, TJ and Rafael are in Mazatlan, Mexico working with Espiritu y Verdad Iglesia. They are there to launch a Known and Grove partnership. While on the trip, Rafael and TJ sit down to talk faith, retirement, God's faithfulness, life as a grandfather and make the intentional decision to go all in with Jesus in your life. We hope you enjoy this conversation!

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