In this episode Campbell talks to BBC News' Senior Editor Ravin Sampat about storytelling, the BBC, wrestling, the digital future of news and what he learned from his time living in India.

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Hosted by Campbell Glennie, Sarah Vignoles, Jackie Adedeji and Abby Kumar

Music Production by Dominic Kennedy