Hosts Jen O'Neill and Sally Brooks get into the episode with stories about the top four dumbest criminals and relationship red-flags according to their therapists.

Then Sally tells the feel good story of Angela Alvarez and her grandson Carlos.

They end the episode talking about things that are dumb and things they love (the TV show Reboot and Wendi Aaron's book "I Wear Tunics Now").

Homework: Order Sally's album 

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