Leadership is often seen as a rapid journey towards perfection. However, the most effective and influential leaders know that being present and embracing their entire selves – including their flaws – is the way to go. In this episode, Dr. Tracey Jones chats with Lisa Michener, a chief communications and marketing officer for more than a decade. Lisa talks about embracing moments of loneliness as growth opportunities and why having downtime should never be seen as a sign of weakness. She also shares the role of her mother in shaping her personal vision, the importance of humility in leadership, and the power of saying no in building a more fulfilled version of yourself.

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