Creative director, advisor, designer, developer, author (Pricing Design), speaker, mentor, musician, and entrepreneur (SuperFriendly, SuperBooked) Dan Mall is Jeffrey Zeldman’s guest. Running a studio, pitching, value pricing, the apprentice program, “Make Grunt do it,” how to start a startup, “the most exciting design systems are boring,” walking away from big pitches, launching a service to help you find work.

Links for this episode:

• A Book Apart, Pricing Design
  
• “How to Scope Work,” an article by Dan Mall
  
• SuperBooked
  
• Dan Mall (@danmall) | Twitter