Tess from the podcast “More Or Less From Tess” is our guest on this episode. Tess lets us into her private life and how she battled breast cancer; she is very open and answers a lot of questions that most people will not talk about. On a lighter note, Eric and Kiley dive into the reality TV world of Bravo along with how Taylor Swift and Travis Kielce are taking over the NFL, again. The new show on Hulu "The Secret Life Of Mormon Wives” has Eric, Kiley, and Tess critiquing this very popular show.