Jesse Damiani, longtime friend of the show, drops by to talk about his continuing adventures in the world of XR. (That's virtual, augmented, and mixed reality for those playing the home game.)

Recently he curated the art show Spatial Reality, which brought together multiple artists from across the reality spectrum for what was one of the biggest -- if not the biggest -- gatherings of XR art to date.

We sit down with Jesse, drink my favorite beer, talk about that show and wax philosophical as we are won't to do. Come, join us.

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