Meditation. All the best have done it. Steve Jobs. Don Draper. Gwyneth Paltrow. That’s right, all the best raging megalomaniac psychopaths have done it. We wanted to learn more about this cross-legged humming art form, so we checked in with pod-pal Karl Rudeen, who just came back from a ten day silent meditation retreat, and put his feet to the fire about whether or not he found inner peace. The newly chill Karl tells us about going on nature walks, avoiding all the vegetables served, and why he couldn’t sleep. Now we know what you’re thinking. “That all sounds well and good, but what I really want to know is: did you ask him if he got any…strange!?!” The answer to that question? You’ll have to listen to find out. Also, yes. We did ask. Listen to Episode 176