With the National High School Journalism Convention (@NHSJC) right around the corner in early November, it's time to revisit a conversation from last February.

In this episode, we hear from retired adviser and friend of the podcast Jim Jordan about the ins and outs of taking your staff on the road to a national convention. Those trips, along with summer camp and workshop experiences, are among the most formative and catalytic in developing a staff and pushing it forward to the next level. I hope to see you in Chicago!

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