In this episode, Hugh sits down with Judge Kathleen O'Malley. Judge O’Malley served as a judge of the United States District Court for the Northern District of Ohio from 1994 to 2010, and since then as a judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.

Their conversation covers:

● Judge O’Malley’s educational and professional background.

● How did Judge O’Malley become a federal judge?

● Jury or nonjury litigation: from the judge’s perspective, which is better?

● What role does “charm” play in litigation?

● How did Judge O’Malley get interested in patent law?

● The Supreme Court’s decision in Google v. Oracle.

● District Court or Court of Appeals: for the judge, which experience was better?

● Why is Judge O’Malley retiring from the bench?

● And much more . . .