In this episode of the SCI In Conversation podcast, SCI US editor Simon Boughey speaks to Mike Nowakowski, md and head of structured products at Conning, about esoteric ABS and both the agency and non-agency MBS markets. Nowakowski discusses what attracts him to the esoteric space; the type of esoterics that currently offer the most value; potential upcoming tailwinds in the mortgage markets; and more.