Today's episode is big one so buckle up!. TJ sits down with Pastor Joe Pacheco of Espiritu y Verdad in Mazatlan, Mexico. Joe and his wife, Laurie, planted the church 40 years ago. In this episode, Joe shares of his upbringing, being an addict, being a biker all the way to surrendering to Jesus and leading in many impactful Kingdom ways. There are many challenges and truths for you to hang on to in this episode. The Grove Church will be mobilizing mission teams to Mazatlan in 2026.

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