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Nikki catches Shel on the way home from the UK Space Conference for a chat that wanders from the practical to the playful. We get into supplements – what we take and why – and how memory feels slippery at the moment. Even so, is there a way to see menopause not just as loss, but as something empowering?

We talk allyship, and why standing up matters, spotlighting inspiration like Bake Off’s Nadhiya. And because no episode of ours is complete without a left-turn, we start to confess our shared love of K-pop demon hunters.