Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD

Episode 187: Where Science Meets OD Practice – A Conversation with Dr. Rob Lion


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In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce welcome Dr. Rob Lion, a strategist, professor, and expert in workplace culture, leadership development, and performance improvement. With a passion for helping students, business leaders, and HR/OD practitioners grow and thrive, Rob blends academic rigor with real-world experience to create sustainable, high-performance practices.

His consultancy, Black River Performance Management, is built on the philosophy that success comes from applying proven models and strategies—what he calls his tools. As he puts it, “Where science meets practice.”

Join us as Dr. Rob shares insights from 20+ years of experience—what’s worked, what hasn’t, and how organizations can cultivate thriving workplace cultures.

Come on in, grab a snack, and enjoy the conversation!

About Dr. Rob Lion

Dr. Rob Lion is a seasoned expert in human resource development and organizational behavior. As a professor at Idaho State University, he has mentored the next generation of leaders while consulting with executives, business owners, and community leaders to build people-centric, high-performing organizations.

Through Black River Performance Management, Rob helps organizations enhance leadership effectiveness, optimize team performance, and tackle complex workplace challenges. His evidence-based, psychology-driven approach ensures measurable, lasting results.

Interested in how Dr. Rob can support your organization? Get in touch:

🔗 blackriverpm.com/contact

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