Today, I have Kerry Olin, who until recently was corporate vice president of Human Resources at Microsoft. Over his 40-year career, spent almost equally at P&G and then Microsoft, Kerry is focused on helping architect the HR operating model and significantly shape people policy decisions at two of the largest and most successful companies in the world. In our conversation today, I asked Kerry to reflect on his 40-year career and share what he feels like separates the most effective leaders he's worked with from the good leaders. And share some insights into how we can not only develop these traits or aspects in ourselves but also in the people that we lead.