In which Matthew interviews Satyros Phil Brucato, the developer for Mage: The Ascension 20th Anniversary Edition.

* Content Warning: Phil discusses his experience with rape and abuse (33:00 to 40:00 and 43:00 to 45:30)

* Matthew talks about how the process works between him as in-house developer and Phil as Mage 20 developer

* Phil writes a lot on his own books. How does he stay objective?

* The Mage brain trust

* Phil gives some writing advice

* How to get into Mage 20

* Book of the Fallen and working with uncomfortable material

* How to run stories of mages coming into their power

* How Phil started on Mage and what he would do differently

* A quick peek at Gods and Monsters

* The Trio recap

* What books and media make you uncomfortable?

* Blooper after the music!