Cody Deaner sits down with his longtime friend of over two decades - AEW star Shawn Spears (formerly known as WWE/NXT superstar Tye Dillinger). They continue their very personal conversation discussing their lives and lessons they've learned in their two different journeys in the wrestling business.

Shawn discusses a variety of things in this second installment of this 2 part conversation, such as:

- Shawn & Cody's WWE tryout experience together in the early 2000's involving Arn Anderson, Rosie and Hurricane Helms

- dealing with disappointment and picking your battles early in your career

- his perspective on getting signed vs. staying signed from someone who has been signed by the WWE, released by the WWE, and signed again by the WWE and brought into developmental

- the value of working with Cody Rhodes in OVW

- why CM Punk is the reason he got a 2nd chance in the WWE

- how to stand out in today's wrestling landscape

- making people care about you as a brand

- dropping knowledge at his Flatbacks Wrestling School

Shawn currently runs a wrestling school with former WWE Superstar Tyler Breeze. You can learn all about Flatbacks Wrestling School at https://www.flatbackswrestlingschool.com/ 

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