John and Randy get into some deep discussions about swimming after a couple of comments from a listener up in Canada facing her first open water swim. The talk turns to what fear is, overcoming what scares you, a few race stories, how to escape an alligator attack (or a potential one), and a Top Ten list for preparing to SwimSmart courtesy of Ironman.

Songs this week:

"Drown" by Theory of a Deadman

"A Dip in the Ocean" by Fountains of Wayne