Debra and Adam had the honor of talking with Brett and Thomas from Psyop Cinema about the 1990 MK horror thriller Jacob's Ladder.  Brett and Thomas have an intense knowledge of religion, philosophy, and history and are able to use their skills to decipher the hidden meaning, motives and Psyops behind films and pop culture.  They went deep on this film and Adam & Debra did their best to keep up. Look for these two back on the show sooner rather than later.   

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