Recorded on November 30th, 2022 - Matt and Ben are pulling yet another two hander and going subversive this week to discuss symbolism. How do filmmkakers and directors use symbolism in their work? What's the difference between a motif and a symbol? Will Matt and Ben agree on this or will they test their friendship and push it to the breaking point? Find out all that and more on this week's episode of The New Way Podcast!