Here, Reggie says that mind states are like rainbows, they are apparent, but empty. True freedom is discovered when we stop trying to pin things down. To demonstrate this, Reggie offers an account of how it was impossible to pin Chogyam Trungpa down.

This talk was given at the 2004 Winter Dathün retreat held in the rocky mountains of Colorado. To register for the upcoming Winter Dathün retreat, please visit our program calendar at www.dharmaocean.org