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Tony and Dan talk about how aerospace manufacturing isn’t just machining: critical “outside processing” like heat treat, testing, anodizing, plating, and painting often becomes the weakest link, partly due to chemical regulation and mostly due to misaligned incentives. The manufacturer holding the customer PO takes the blame when finishers or material suppliers slip, but those vendors feel little accountability - especially when small shops represent tiny dollars compared to big customers (e.g., SpaceX) who get prioritized. They rough out the revenue distribution of US machine shops, claiming only a tiny fraction exceed $25M and about 55% are under $2M, making forecasting beyond ~8 weeks hard for most. They argue efficiency improves when shops stick to core competencies and float an idea for a national capabilities index, but keep the actual solution undisclosed - for now.
00:00 Outside Processing Blind Spot
01:34 Incentives and Accountability
03:32 Big Customers Get Priority
04:17 Respect Over Dollar Signs
05:05 Scale and Market Size Math
06:23 Machine Shop Revenue Tiers
08:41 Core Competency Efficiency
10:31 Capability Index Idea
11:21 Lumpy Demand and Conclusion
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By Dan Echternkamp and Tony KelbertTony and Dan talk about how aerospace manufacturing isn’t just machining: critical “outside processing” like heat treat, testing, anodizing, plating, and painting often becomes the weakest link, partly due to chemical regulation and mostly due to misaligned incentives. The manufacturer holding the customer PO takes the blame when finishers or material suppliers slip, but those vendors feel little accountability - especially when small shops represent tiny dollars compared to big customers (e.g., SpaceX) who get prioritized. They rough out the revenue distribution of US machine shops, claiming only a tiny fraction exceed $25M and about 55% are under $2M, making forecasting beyond ~8 weeks hard for most. They argue efficiency improves when shops stick to core competencies and float an idea for a national capabilities index, but keep the actual solution undisclosed - for now.
00:00 Outside Processing Blind Spot
01:34 Incentives and Accountability
03:32 Big Customers Get Priority
04:17 Respect Over Dollar Signs
05:05 Scale and Market Size Math
06:23 Machine Shop Revenue Tiers
08:41 Core Competency Efficiency
10:31 Capability Index Idea
11:21 Lumpy Demand and Conclusion
Follow AeroGrowth on LinkedIn
Check out our website here
Connect with Dan on LinkedIn
Connect with Tony on LinkedIn