Clautel Buba joins Maine Poet Laureate Stuart Kestenbaum in conversation and to read his poem "Inside The Life I Knew," featured in A NEW LAND, a poetry anthology from The Telling Room. Stuart and Clautel discuss how poetry creates empathy among people who live across continents from one another, dusty roads, ice falling from the sky, working with kids with autism, writing poems on your phone, and trying to find the right path to follow. Clautel is now working as a classroom aid.