Jeremy spent his earlier years living in country Australia, playing professional sport and became friends with Dave while studying education together. Jeremy is a powerful teacher, relational leader and has a heart to see the church be a light in the local community.

Jeremy talks with Dave about our absolute dependency on God when it comes to leading a church 14:40, the idea that worship is attention and the evidence of a devoted heart 21:50, the importance of unity and love between churches and how it can either champion or tarnish the gospel message 32:20 and they finish up discussing the attractional church and what it looks like to speak the language of our culture but not eat its fruit. 47:50.

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