In this episode of the Perfuct podcast, Jason Killingsworth speaks with songwriter Derek Webb about guilt, shame and creativity. Webb discusses what he learned from songwriters such as Joni Mitchell, Amy Ray and Bob Dylan about the delicate art of prying open one's ribs and inserting a microphone. Is getting onstage night after night to sing – and thereby re-live – one's grief an act of healing or masochism? For more info, visit: www.itsperfuct.com

Special Guest: Derek Webb.