Welcome to the Valkari podcast. This week we are join by our third member Dia Salim, who helps us to express in more details the thoughts around soul 1. what is a soul, why do we call it that, and why does that matter? We also look deeper into designing products user centred design, and how this is used to design great products rather then ordinary ones. * We apologies for the beginning of this podcast when Dia Salim is speaking as we where experiencing some audio issues, due to his remote connection.