In this week’s episode of Normal Men, your very normal hosts are joined by an inspiring special guest before we talk about tariffs and bonds, because tariffs and bonds are going to continue to be big news for the foreseeable future (nobody is happy about this).

We also discuss updates in the Kilmar Ábrego García case and the effort to overturn an election to the North Carolina Supreme Court.

Chapters:

0:00 Intro and iPhone Tariffs