This episode is dedicated to Paul Babits. It was recorded just 2 days before his passing. 2 of his athletes now gone coach & collegiate athlete having a conversation.

On this episode, I talk to Eli Griffin, a very decorated pole vaulter, & the first athlete I coached over the 15' barrier. He now attends West Point on the pole vault squad.

We talk about Eli's high school career, poles, the free take-off, some funny stories we experienced, when I saw Eli have his epiphany moment...