In Episode 2, Austin starts the show by discussing the parallels between 9/11 and the Eaton Fire through the lens of collective grief. Then he is joined by grief expert Vanessa Fierstadt to break down this unique and specific type of grief that the town of Altadena is going through. We do a deep dive on the emotional side of the recovery, and explore how our neighbors can feel so much at once and meet each other where they're at as we look to rebuild our community.