In this episode we sit down with Safwan Choudhury to talk about the state of affairs in the mobile app space, how professional developers create mobile apps, and how you can get started creating the next killer app. We also talk a little about murdering people, but thanks to time travel we bring them back to life again. At one point Pete accidentally says Star Wars instead of Star Trek, and will be forever embarrassed, his nerd cred tarnished.