In 2019, Trustee Mike Del Grande used language that some called "inflammatory" and "disrespectful" to oppose additional 2SLGBTQ+ inclusion at the Toronto Catholic District School Board. Del Grande's comments resulted in sanctions from his fellow trustees and multiple legal battles. But not everyone opposes Del Grande's views. In fact, one group has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to fund his defence. Through interviews with key players, hosts Matt Nethersole and Tiff Lam explore the aftermath of Mike Del Grande's remarks. They also ask: what role do Catholic teachings play in public education? Later, we consider the impacts this case may have on freedom of religion and 2SLGBTQ+ rights in Canada.

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