Jared Kopf is a true inspiration to me and many others. He is no doubt one of the smartest men in magic and his thoughts and ideas are always insightful.

We recorded this episode on the last day of Jared's tour in China, this podcast almost didn't happen because we just had so much fun talking and jamming throughout his stay here in Shanghai (Joe, Jared and I talked until 5 am the night before we recorded the podcast, hence the raspy voices and randomness in this podcast ). Anyhow, I am glad we recorded this and really hope that you enjoy this episode!

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