Me and Garrett Gonzales (roheblius on socials) have been buddies for over two decades, and much of our friendship has centered around music. We actually met as music reviewers and have kept the discourse going even though neither of us writes consistently about music anymore. The two of us reconnected for an episode of JN2S during which we cover the recent Grammy Award ceremony, our mature music tastes and how some genres (specifically hip-hop) don't speak to us the same as they used to. We also discuss two wildly controversial artists; Kanye West and Justin Timberlake (leading to discussions about Michael Jackson and R. Kelly) and try to figure out where the line is when it comes to appreciating art by people who might be problematic for a variety of reasons.