In Episode 2 of The Phillips Watches Podcast, host Logan Baker sits down with Karl-Friedrich Scheufele, Co-President of Chopard and President of Ferdinand Berthoud, and Alex Ghotbi of Phillips, to discuss Mr. Scheufele's lifelong connection to watchmaking and the philosophy that guides his work. From the creation of the first L.U.C. movement at Chopard in the 1990s to the rebirth of the Ferdinand Berthoud name in 2015, Scheufele shares how patience, independence, and respect for tradition have shaped his approach to both craft and leadership.

The conversation also explores the extraordinary Naissance d’Une Montre III project – an incredible Ferdinand Berthoud watch built entirely by hand, without CNC or computer-aided design. Scheufele reflects on the parallels between watchmaking and winemaking, the importance of passing knowledge from master to apprentice, and why, as he puts it, “what you do with time, time will respect.”