Check out part 1 of our interview with Loren Cassin Sackett and Nic Kooyers, two awesome researchers who were hanging out with Adam Ferguson at Mpala Research Centre.

To learn more about Loren's work, you can follow her really active Twitter profile at twitter.com/LorenCSackett. Nic's research is collected in his personal website, found here: sites.google.com/site/nkooyers/

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I Am A Nightmare - Brand New

Missed the Boat - Modest Mouse

Montana - Youth Lagoon