Paul and Mitch discuss Neil Ferguson's dramatic fall from grace, the upcoming lockdown tracing app, the quality of life argument for lifting the lockdown, and a potential left-right labour alliance against the corrosive forces of neoliberalism.

The Federalist article: https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/01/could-surging-pandemic-era-populism-help-forge-a-left-right-labor-coalition/