Our first guests on the podcast are Lancaster University professors Nigel Clark and Bronislaw Szerszynski, discussing their fantastic new book 'Planetary Social Thought - The Anthropocene Challenge to the Social Sciences' (Polity, 2021). In a fascinating and wide-ranging discussion, we cover: the 'socialization' of the Anthropocene and the converse movement of 'geologizing' social science; a new basis to bring natural and social science together and into new conversation; how taking the planet seriously rewrites familiar narratives of (Western) modernity, colonization and, indeed, contemporary decolonization; the basis of the capacity of human reinvention in the planet's multiplicity and its capacity for transformation; and, of course, the adequacy (or not) of social science for the age of the Anthropocene; and much more...