Hello and welcome to EPISODE 2 of Diversity Hire.

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On today’s episode, Jay Caspian Kang (New York Times Magazine, New Yorker, Grantland) joins us to talk about how he got into the media rat race (8:51), the early days of Grantland (13:35), his frustrations with corporate media while at The New Yorker (16:56), the evolution of the corporate diversity discourse (36:10), the failure of identity politics (48:59), and why you should quit your corporate media job (57:44). Arjun also shares his searing take about Bay Area pizza (It’s better than any other pizza in this country and I’m not changing my opinion, okay?)

Jay co-hosts a fantastic podcast about geopolitics and Asian Americans with Tammy Kim and Andy Liu called Time To Say Goodbye.

In the episode, we quote Jay’s piece from New York Times Magazine and his piece from the New Yorker. (Do these links show up in the podcast description? We’re still learning!)

Here is a document that Arjun made to raise funds for his birthday. Please donate whatever you can.

This is your brain *picture of your brain*. This is your brain on Diversity Hire *it’s the same picture of your brain, but this time it’s wearing sunglasses*. Any questions? If so, email us at [email protected]. We’ll read your questions in an upcoming Q&A episode (I haven’t run this idea by Kevin but I imagine he’d be interested. We’ll see!)

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