Gritman sits down with former MLB player and manager Phil “Scrap Iron” Garner. Phil explains the origins of his legendary nickname and shares stories from his childhood and professional career. They cover how the modern game has lost toughness, the Astros sign stealing controversy, Phil’s relationship with Dusty Baker, and the Astros-Braves World Series. They close with a discussion on masculinity and how a free society is supposed to operate.