In Episode 2 of Take It Personal, Steph, Jaimie, and Will dive deep into everything from the NBA playoffs to the ethics of separating art from the artist. It’s a wide-ranging and heartfelt conversation on reality TV, political corruption, housing market chaos, and cultural accountability—with plenty of laughs (and gasps) along the way.

Topics include:

• Jason Tatum's legacy and the Celtics' identity crisis
• Chrisley pardons, Below Deck, and reality TV rabbit holes
• The ridiculousness of the housing market in ATL and DC
• Crypto corruption and what it means for democracy
• Wrestling with childhood memories in the wake of Diddy allegations
• Should art made by problematic people be archived or erased?

Plus: conspiracy theories about Stone Mountain, Top Chef nostalgia, and a 200-pound dog named Pickle.

This episode is a messy, meaningful, and very personal exploration of how we make sense of our culture—and our place in it.