We know Vladimir Putin likes to pose shirtless while hunting bears, and that he and Donald Trump have something special going on, but how much we do know about the man himself? Jessica van Onselen continues her conversation with Irina Filatova about Putin and South Africa. The books mentioned in this show are: - "ANC: The view from Moscow" (1999) by Vladimir Shubin and - "The Hidden Thread: Russia and South Africa in the Soviet Era" (2013) by Irina Filatova and Apollon Davidson