1:45 - How the hell are you, Erik?

2:40 - “Livin’ the dream, losin’ my mind like everybody else.”

2:50 - We met at the Foothill Theatre Conservatory.

3:00 - How bureaucracy destroyed the program

3:40 - How Tom broke it down

5:15 - How nervous I was to audition for Conservatory

6:00 - Acting as I write screenplays

7:20 - Erik has never not gotten nervous to perform

7:30 - Jeremy’s showcase scene

8:30 - Jeremy’s one man show

9:45 - Did Loyola Marymount have a New Works Festival?

11:04 - The closest thing to Stand-Up

11:40 - One-Man Show Inspirations

12:24 - Jeremy’s early self-perceived weaknesses as an actor

12:30 - “Oh, I don’t know what to do with my hands.”

13:13 - Erik’s Stretch Story

14:40 - He used to feel more comfortable thinking about character first. Trying to get back to thinking of the craft first.

15:20 - Jeremy explains Stretch

16:45 - The Actor and the Target

20:20 - Reading books you have vs. Buying new books

22:30 - Watching first act of movies

23:20 - ‘As Good As It Gets’ with Jack Nicholson

24:06 - Letterboxd?

25:23 - The layers to the process of really thinking.

25:45 - Film criticism?

27:20 - Filmmaking is the film critic’s dream

28:00 - So much easier to tear down than create

29:00 - ‘Bullet in the Brain’ by Tobias Wolff

30:20 - ‘Red’ by Rothko

30:50 - Our judgy inner voice.  You have to be continually reassured.

31:30 - Acting as a game of endurance

32:22 - The idea of “should”

33:00 - What’s the one thing you really WANT to exist?

34:30 - The action of being creative IN and OF itself.

35:00 - The invisible increments of growth

36:40 - A Bright Eyes lyric

37:14 - David Lynch quote

37:40 - Jordan B. Peterson —> Great stories are where the archetypal meets the personal

38:58 - Mark Twain on the value of traveling

39:30 - Trying to understand why a character reacts in a way we wouldn’t.

40:00 - Any choice CAN be reasonably motivated.

40:32 - Acting. The pure empathy machine.

40:45 - Me and Erik are fucking QUOTES GUYS

42:00 - What a good actor does in the face of shitty material

43:11 - What Erik expected from Hollywood. The lonesomeness of LA without community. Feeling lost regardless.

45:18 - Adam Scott, 15 years before he got anything.

45:25 - You need to cultivate an outside life.

46:16 - It’s up and down!

47:19 - The land of broken (entitled) dreams.

47:47 - Have some fucking agency!

49:20 - Sean Baker liked Strawberry’s look

50:00 - All the “You Shoulds”

50:31 - Who has the money?

51:00 - Only 3% of actors have this happen

51:50 - Jacob Elordi v. Angus Cloud

53:00 - Why I left L.A.

54:34 - A publicist (he thinks) told Erik this.

56:20 - What success looks like.

57:00 - “Just another movie that played at a big festival”

58:00 - The magic is in the DOING

58:20 - Seeking external validation always leads to unhappiness.

59:20- ‘The End of the Tour’, constantly re-defining our idea of success so we’re just outside of it.

1:00:00 - The CONSTANT effort and work necessary for gratitude.

1:00:54 - Erik is a HYPOCRITE

1:05:00 - You can read and learn all you want, but if you aren’t implementing, it’s pointless.

1:06:30 - How we try to BE LESS DUMB

1:07:27 - Erik prefers experiencing work with others, Jeremy does not.

1:08:20 - I used to think I wasn’t “advanced” enough for serious movies

1:10:00 - Of course, belief is the first step!

1:10:26 - An artist’s journey: bringing your skill level up to your taste.

1:20:00 - Religious upbringing talk

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