In Episode 20 of The Good Oil Podcast, Cam sits down with Free Speech Union CEO Jillaine Heather, a forthright voice in New Zealand’s free-expression battles.

After two decades working overseas, she returned home to a country she’s increasingly disappointed in: more anxious, more censorious, and edging toward the same pitfalls she’s seen swallow other Western nations.

Jillaine unpacks regulatory overreach, cultural fragility, suppression, and why open debate matters now more than ever.

Clear-eyed and unflinching, she lays out what’s coming if New Zealand isn’t careful.

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