Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n OD

Episode 202: Assessment Grit: Knowing Before Doing


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In this episode, Bob ‘n Joyce dig into the underrated superpower of knowing before doing. Before charging ahead, what if we paused to truly assess what’s needed? We share a playful, low-tech meeting check-in that opened the door to real talk—and it just might work wonders in your next gathering.

From informal gut checks to formal tools that steer hiring and change management, we explore how assessments help leaders tune in, not just dive in. You’ll also hear a few “ouch” moments when we skipped this step… and paid the price.

So come hang out with us as we assess the art of assessment. Bring your curiosity—and maybe a snack. Welcome in.

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Bob 'n Joyce Talk HR 'n ODBy Bob Stapleton and Joyce Wilson-Sanford

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