Judy Blume and the Hatcher family are BACK! On Episode 205, Alli and her guest revisit the rowdy world of Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing with a chat about fatherhood in the ‘70s, group projects, fatphobia, and why anyone would choose to eat a turtle. They also dig deep into sibling dynamics and seek justice for big brother Peter!

Carola Lovering is the author of Tell Me Lies, Too Good to Be True, and Can’t Look Away. Follow her on Instagram (@carolatlovering).

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