In this episode, John Stephens and Matt Russell dive into one of the most pressing conversations facing the church today: the rise of Christian nationalism. Together they explore what the term really means, why definitions matter, and how patriotism and faith can be confused or faithfully held in balance.

Drawing from voices like David French, Russell Moore, and others, they unpack the dangers of fusing Christianity with political power, trace historical examples from Constantine to the Civil Rights movement, and wrestle with key biblical passages including Israel’s demand for a king, Jesus before Pilate, and the temptations in the wilderness.

At the heart of the conversation is this question: what does it mean to love your country without compromising your ultimate allegiance to Christ and the kingdom of God?

Listen in for a thoughtful, pastoral, and challenging discussion that seeks to help Christians navigate faith and politics without falling into the trap of idolatry or fear.