In this episode of the Make That Paper Podcast hosts Jaime Parker Stickle and Jason Beeber talk to writer and podcaster Maggie Downs about leather chaps, confusing water conservation tips, and her new memoir "Braver Than You Think: Around the World on the Trip of My (Mother’s) Lifetime."

http://www.maggieink.com/

https://bookshop.org/books/braver-than-you-think-around-the-world-on-the-trip-of-my-mother-s-lifetime/9781640092921

https://amzn.to/3erewv3

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/open-book-with-maggie-downs-tod-goldberg/id1437237475

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